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Apr. 29th, 2009 05:45 pm
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So... I know where Star Wars costumers hang out online, but where do the Star Trek ones go? Anyone? Anyone?

Obvious post is obvious.

Date: 2009-04-30 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
I was wondering the same thing myself! Although uniform shirts are easier to find than the female skirt uniform *sad*

Date: 2009-04-30 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
I know, right? My google searched turned up only vaguely accurate and always out of stock expensive pseudo recreations. I figured that this stuff has been around for decades, there have to be tons of people who have made these things and know what to do and what not to do, yeah? I can't find anything.

Date: 2009-04-30 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
you can buy patterns on the gene roddenberry website. The shirts are available prolifically on ebay or thinkgeek.com

Date: 2009-04-30 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
Except, the patterns on that site appear to almost all be sold out/out of print. And, the ebay/think geek are the same expensive and generic Halloween getups. *sigh* It's good, but not great, you know?

Also, both sources tend only toward the military uniforms for the main protaganists.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
looks like you might need to make it yourself =P Which costume were yu trying to find?

Date: 2009-04-30 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
I was really looking for, like you said, the original women's uniform. Noticed the $60 Halloween costumes have an inaccurate neckline to the original and don't open on the side. So, started looking for resources beyond this edition.

But, thinking of that got me curious about what sorts of borg or Klingon costumes might be out there, you know? Or other villans. Or prop making. There are all sorts of worlds and peoples beyond the starfleet military humans. But, I just didn't see much of that. Know what I mean? *not explaining well*

Date: 2009-04-30 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
whoo! I'm not the only one! Yeah, my friend and I were scouring the net and all we could come up with were inaccurate depictions on ebay. The silhouettes there were sheath and I could swear it was an A line.

I think those who do born or klingon costumes do it themselves. they study what they see and recreate it. There are a LOT of alien life forms and I think most of those costumes are homemade.

Date: 2009-04-30 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
Seriously! Exactly my thoughts and process. I guess they modified it to reduce the amount of fabric it took? I'm not sure.

Well, yeah. Of course they're homemade. But, I assumed there was a community around it. Like, forums and guides and recomendations and tutorials. As I continue to search I'm seeing slightly more, but it's still nothing like Star Wars or cosplay people have. Or maybe it's just not centralized and that's more of what confuses me. *scratches head*

Ooh! Check this out: http://www.madwulf.com/Klingon.htm =D Bitchin!

Date: 2009-04-30 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
There might be a resurgence after this movie comes out. I was watching an ep yesterday and wonder if it could be a sarong style? Or even a skort?

You would think, since it's such a huge part of the culture, that there would be a million communities. But nooo...

And that's an epic klingon.

Date: 2009-04-30 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
I think there are shorts underneath. One description I read described that, but I didn't see them in any caps or stills. Sarong? No, not quite a sarong. Closer to a wrap dress. But, I think the flap/opening is mostly fake. You can see the zippers on the shoulders of the men's uniform, but the women's uniform... I dunno. It holds closed too well. *needs to watch some more*

Of course the movie completly reinvents both uniforms. And, has a crazy new textured fabric to boot.....

You would think, since it's such a huge part of the culture, that there would be a million communities. But nooo...
Yes! Exactly!

Date: 2009-04-30 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
It's totally a man's world concerning star trek sadly. the men's uniforms are described in great detail and are replicated everywhere. The only female uniform I've seen out there is the TNG uniform shirt which (if you ask me) looks so...masculine.

...You know, I think we're about 5 steps away from klingon boggle =P

Date: 2009-04-30 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
*laugh* Except the dress/skirt uniform was worn on men, too, in season 1 and 2 of TNG! Really, TOS is the only one with a distinctly female uniform. So, that much I can understand. Sort of. Except, you'd think like cosplay women would be the ones primarily making outfits and yet, no. Not the case, it seems.

XD We are! We are! But, I'd lose.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
The TNG manskirt was so wrong that I have blocked it out of my mind. *shudders from the memories*

You've got all sorts of women dressing up as orion slave girls or TNG uniforms. But absolutely 0 on TOS female uniform. *sigh* So sad.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
Ooh? Where are you seeing these pictures? Links please! =D

Date: 2009-04-30 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
http://www.roddenberry.com/wardrobe/patterns/tng-starfleet-duty-skant-male.html

http://www.roddenberry.com/wardrobe/patterns?p=2
^scroll down a bit for that one.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
No, I mean like the people dressesd orion slave girls or TNG that you mentioned.

Date: 2009-04-30 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
yeah that's the TNG man skirt. I haven't googled orion slave girls yet. I'm kind of in lecture. shhh!

Date: 2009-04-30 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
You've got all sorts of women dressing up as orion slave girls or TNG uniforms. But absolutely 0 on TOS female uniform.

So this was from.... imagination?

Date: 2009-04-30 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
I've heard all sorts of rumors about orion slave girls. Hold on...

http://www.amiradance.com/Orion2.html

She's the famous leia bellydancer.

Date: 2009-04-30 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baenigma.livejournal.com
oh and I found this by google image searching +TOS +skant +uniform

http://trekspace.ning.com/profile/JaniceWillcocks

Date: 2009-04-30 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kutariprime.livejournal.com
There are actual forums for Star Trek cosplayers. I use to belong to one but its no longer in existance. Try http://www.roddenberry.com/

there are many costume forums

Date: 2009-04-30 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizuno-caitlin.livejournal.com
This is crazy! Where do all those awesome Klingons work out their stuff, then? I always just assumed ST had to have amazing costume circles. *sighs* Oh, how I learn.

*clicks around there and grumbles that this only fuels her recent odd passion for sf uniforms even more*

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